Teen Killers – Antonio Barbeau & Nathan Paape

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16th November 2017  •  6 min read

In 2012, Sheboygan County was rocked by the brutal murder of a 78-year-old great grandmother. Even more shocking was the revelation of who had perpetrated the murder.


Teen Killers - Antonio Barbeau & Nathan Paape

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Sheboygan Falls is an idyllic city in Sheboygan County, Wisconsin. Before 2012, the last murder was in 1996 and there are only one or two first-degree homicides in all of Sheboygan County per year on average. It isn’t a large metropolitan area where crime is rife but a densely populated area where crime is almost non-existent. Fleeing the bright lights of Wisconsin, many families set up home here because of how safe it is considered as well as how picturesque it is. Quaint shops and restaurants line the streets in the commercial area while lush trees are dotted along the meandering roads in the residential area.

In 2012, however, Sheboygan Falls was shocked by the brutal murder of 78-year-old great grandmother, Barbara Olson, who was hacked and bludgeoned to death with a hatchet and hammer.

Teen Killers - Antonio Barbeau & Nathan Paape
Barbara Olson

Even more shocking was the revelation of who the murder was perpetrated by – Barbara’s very own 13-year-old great grandson and his best friend. It was a crime that shocked the nation. If you’re not safe in your own home with your own great-grandson then where are you safe?

“Did these kids grow up here? Did they grow up here in Sheboygan?” asked Sheboygan County District, Joe DeCecco, when he was informed of the heinous murder. Antonio Barbeau and Nathan Paape looked like your average all-American boys from Sheboygan Falls, so what led them to kill Antonio’s great grandmother with such savagery?  1

On that fateful afternoon of September 17th, 2012, Nathan’s oblivious mother drove the two boys down the tree-lined street of Westwynde Bluffs. As they approached the house with the welcome sign affixed to a plant in the front garden, they said goodbye to Nathan’s mother. When she was out of sight, they snuck into Barbara’s garage.

They had intended on sneaking up on Barbara through the door which led from the garage to the kitchen. However, Barbara heard the teenage boys and invited them into the house, adding that she would call Antonio’s mother to let her know that Antonio was with her.

When Barbara turned her back on Antonio and Nathan, she was brutally attacked by the duo, which had brought along their weapons of choice: a hatchet and hammer.  They cracked her across the head with the blunt edge of the hatchet. She fell to the floor and “tried to cover her head, groaning and telling them to stop.” Following the heinous attack, the two boys attempted to drag her blood-soaked body to the car which was parked in the garage. Realising that this wasn’t an easy feat, they decided to just ditch Barbara’s body in the garage, with a trail of blood leading from inside the home.

A mere $155 was all they were able to steal from Barbara, as well as several pieces of jewellery. After they stuffed the pitiful bounty into their pockets, they grabbed Barbara’s car keys and dumped her unlocked car at a nearby Sheboygan bowling alley. Inside the car, they abandoned the few pieces of jewellery that they had ransacked from the home in the hopes that somebody would steal the unlocked vehicle and then be implicated in her murder.

So what would two teenagers do with a pitiful $155, stolen from the elderly lady they just slaughtered? They bought marijuana and pizza.

It wouldn’t be until two days later that Barbara’s body was found. Her daughter, Judy Offutt, drove over to her home when she hadn’t heard from her. She peeked into the garage and noticed that Barbara’s car wasn’t there. Before turning away, she glanced towards the garage door and spotted her lying on the floor, surrounded by blood. She initially believed that her mother must have had an accident but this was no accident, as she was soon to find out.

Within 12 hours, Nathan and Antonio would be apprehended for her murder after bloody clothes and shoes were discovered in Antonio’s locker. An investigation of Nathan’s home unearthed more bloody clothes as well as Barbara’s gold watch and in a nearby storm drain, they discovered her purse.

It was announced that the two teenagers would be being charged as adults with first-degree murder. In January of 2013, Antonio entered a plea of not guilty by mental disease or defect. Two weeks later, Nathan also entered a plea of not guilty.

Antonio’s attorney had attempted to have his trial moved because of the pre-trial publicity but they were unsuccessful. As the trial date loomed, Antonio changed his plea to no contest as part of a deal with the state which would see him eligible for parole in 35 years. He was convicted of first-degree intentional homicide. 2

Now it would only be Nathan facing a court of law. By June of 2013, jury selection was complete – 11 men and three women were selected. It would be one of the most shameful trials the entire state of Wisconsin had ever seen.

During the opening statements, which commenced on Monday the 17th of June, 2013, Nathan’s defence attorney, Chris Petros, told the jurors that on that warm September afternoon, Nathan had come home from school as usual. Shortly after he dropped his schoolbag on the floor, his good friend, Antonio, showed up at his door. As the teenagers sat in Nathan’s bedroom, Antonio produced a hatchet from his bag.

According to Nathan’s defence attorney, Antonio then concocted the grim plan to kill his own great grandmother.3

Nathan was nothing more than a bystander, they argued. Antionio, however, had a different version of events when it was his turn on the witness stand. While he admitted that he had attacked Barbara with the hatchet, he contended that Nathan wasn’t as innocent in the ordeal as his defence attorney was claiming. Nathan came to Barbara’s home armed with a hammer and with that weapon, he bludgeoned Barbara. He also testified that Nathan was just as compliant in the planning of the murder.

When Nathan took to the witness stand, he confessed that he did hit Barbara with the hammer, adding that he only hit her twice and only did so because he was afraid that Antonio would turn on him. He also described how Antonio had a “blank, no emotions” look on his face as he repeatedly bludgeoned his Barbara.

At one point during the murder, Antonio took off his sweatshirt so that it wouldn’t get in the way of “him swinging,” Nathan told the aghast court room. 4

Fond du Lac County Medical Examiner, Doug Kelley, testified that Barbara had been struck at least 27 times with both sharp and blunt objects. This was the evidence that Nathan, armed with a hammer, certainly had participated in the murder. The entire court room fell dead silent as the gruesome photos of Barbara’s body flashed on screen. Deep wounds to her head, face, arms and hands were enough to make even the most hardened law officials look away. The wounds on her arms and hands were indicative of defensive wounds, meaning that the elderly great grandmother had attempted to defend herself against the blows.

She wasn’ t knocked unconscious by the initial blow meaning she knew very well that it was her own flesh and blood ending her life.

Throughout the trial, Antonio’s defence attorney had argued that in 2009, Antonio had been involved in a car accident which left him with an “unspecified cognitive disorder,” which most likely played a role in his decision to commit crime. However, this alone certainly wasn’t enough to ignore the brutal nature of the murder and certainly doesn’t justify the actions. District attorney, Joe DeCecco agreed that “this type of crime cannot go unanswered and be explained away by brain trauma.” 5

Antionio’s grandmother – the daughter of his victim – offered a plea in mitigation. She contended that her mother would want Antonio to not receive a strict punishment so that he could have a chance to be a better person. While Antonio’s attorneys and family were attempting to excuse his actions with brain trauma, Nathan’s attorneys and family had argued that Nathan should not have been held accountable because he was allegedly developmentally challenged. His great aunt told Fox 6 that Nathan believed he would be coming home after admitting to the murder, indicating he didn’t grasp the severity of what he had done or considered the consequences.

However, Judge Timothy Van Akkeren disagreed with both defences, arguing that the crime as the worst he had encountered in his 24 years on the bench. “I’ve not seen anything of this nature, not even close,” he said. As the trial was coming to a close, the  two teenagers shed tears and asked for forgiveness but these crocodile tears didn’t sway the jury. After just mere hours of deliberation, they found Nathan guilty of being party to first-degree intentional murder and sentenced him to life imprisonment with a minimum of 31 years. Antonio Barbeau had already been convicted of first-degree intentional homicide and sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum of 35 years.

Teen Killers - Antonio Barbeau & Nathan Paape
Barbara and Antonio

When Nathan and Antonio are 49-years-old, they will both have a chance of parole. Both murders will get a second chance at life – something they denied Barbara Olson as she begged the young boy that she helped raise from birth, for her life.

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Footnotes:

  1. St. Paul Pioneer Press – 30 September, 2012 – “Sometimes, Evil Grows in Unexpected Places”
  2. St Paul Pioneer Press – 6 June, 2013 –“Regional Briefing”
  3. Associated Press State Wire – 17 June, 2013 – “Defence Pins Blame on Other Teen”
  4. NY Daily News -20 June, 2013 – “Boy Testifies how they Hacked Great-Grandmother”
  5. Human Events – 14 August, 2013 – “Forgivable – but Justified?”

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Tonnie Moon
Tonnie Moon
6 years ago

What sort of kid does that? Yesterday, Joshua Phillips, who was found guilty of killing his 8-year-old neighbor (Maddie Clifton) was again sentenced to Life Without Parole. Not a chance to ever live as a free adult. He was 14 when he says a bat hit Maddie in the cheek and he accidentally killed her trying to quiet her. They didn’t disprove that, and there was no assault otherwise. So… I mean that kid didn’t go next door to kill that little girl, he made a bad decision with tragic results. These two… they had their weapons and they went… Read more »

severin
severin
6 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

“Justice is this country is just so screwed up”
What are you talking about? In any other developed (and not developed) country these two were going free after 4-6 years. And in Scandinavia or Germany 13-year-olds can’t be charged at all as the age of criminal responsibility there is 14. Any case, no kids before 18 are sentenced as adults in any place in the wold except US.

Snook
Snook
6 years ago
Reply to  severin

Wrong. The age is 10 here in the UK.

Severin
Severin
6 years ago
Reply to  Snook

England is an exception here.

In Scotland it was changed to 12. In England it is (yet) 10, but today you can’t arrest a child before 12. And the minimum age for trying as adult in GB is 14. The maximum sentence for juveniles at adult court is 20 to life. But even in very cruel cases it was 15-17 to life.

Tara White
Tara White
6 years ago
Reply to  severin

Who cares…if these 2 savages can kill a poor grandma I can only imagine what they’ll be capable of at 49. They deserve what she got which is death. They knew RIGHT from WRONG. You can’t change evil…nature vs. Nurture

Robert Cote
Robert Cote
1 year ago
Reply to  Tara White

You obviously do not believe in rehabilitation…

RD W
RD W
1 year ago
Reply to  Robert Cote

WHo gives a damn about “rehabilitation” of these two! they are sentenced to prison for a MURDER not shoplifting or stealing some kid’s bicycle!

Tess
Tess
9 months ago
Reply to  RD W

I agree. There is no rehabbing a child killer! Especially a strategic one at that. They planned it out and when things didn’t go as they planned they thought out alternatives instead. SMH. You don’t rehab sociopaths/ narcissists, psychos. If they did this at that young age. You can’t even begging to understand what they’ll be capable at 49. Keep their asses for life!!

R.D
R.D
9 months ago
Reply to  Robert Cote

Some people you can not rehabilitate.

S. M.
S. M.
2 years ago
Reply to  severin

Maybe research before commenting next time? 🙄

Robert Cote
Robert Cote
1 year ago
Reply to  severin

I totally agree, this is crazy. The US does not see fit to drink at 18 but he can send 14 yo to jail for life!

Cindy Wagner
Cindy Wagner
9 months ago
Reply to  Robert Cote

What is wrong with you people no matter their age these 2 boys took a life they don’t deserve to ever be free again, being young does not condone being able to do wrong and get away with it 5 or 500 if you can plan and take a life you don’t deserve to be free!

asdf
asdf
29 days ago
Reply to  severin

AH yes, “Justice over there worse, so bad justice here is OK”

Abby
Abby
6 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

Joshua Phillips also, strangled her with a phone cord, continued to beat her with the bat and then stabbed the little girl 11 times just before stashing her dead body in his waterbed. Please do not down play the heinous crimes of any of these children despite the reason behind it

Tess
Tess
9 months ago
Reply to  Abby

I thought the same thing. Way more heinous than described above. He should never see the light of day outside prison walls either! SMH people think these kids can be rehabilitated. Yeah just like Dahmer, Gacy, Ramirez. Imagine if these two kids plan actually worked and they didn’t get caught?? Who’s next? A neighbor. A clerk. A girl friend. SMH. They don’t change! The sooner people realize this the sooner more of them can be seen and punished for what they are instead of hiding behind and age and justifying it or excising it

Todd Jones
Todd Jones
5 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

You idiot, any kid who would do something like that doesn’t deserve a second chance.

Nah
Nah
5 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

Dude, you’re the idiot if you think that they should have leniency just because they are young. I’d honestly rather see them get the death penalty, but I guess 31-life will have to do.

Joel
Joel
5 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

You must be mentally challenged like they claim Nathan was if you think this crime is excusable. They could have just taken the money because she was an elderly woman but they decided to kill her. And the fact that they hit her 27 times should speak for itself. Only very ignorant people would think these kids deserve any leniency at all.

Brandon Johns
Brandon Johns
5 years ago
Reply to  Joel

It has been proven that the minds of children are different. I am certainly not the same person I was at 14. On the flip side, many adults who have done worse than this are walking free. Children are not adults and shouldn’t be treated as such. The so-called “land of the free” is the only country that sentences kids to die in prison. We also have the largest prison population in the world and some of the harshest prisons in the world. I don’t care what happens to adult killers, but children are different.

Ash
Ash
5 years ago
Reply to  Brandon Johns

Did you know not to viciously murder people at 13? Huh. Me too. Weird. The brains of children are different, but you and everyone else defending things like this seem to forget that you can literally just think back on being that age. You KNOW these kids knew what they were doing and that it was wrong.

RD guest
RD guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Brandon Johns

“Children are not adults and shouldn’t be treated as such.” YES they should when it comes to cold blooded MURDER! none of us HERE have ever killed anyone, we’re not talking about a kid making a bad choice to steal a candy bar from a store or a bike parked by a tree- either of which would be EASY to rectify with a punishment and restitution, but this is MURDER, there is someone who cant live THEIR life because of these two pieces of trash! the only way they deserve any second chance is if they can raise the DEAD… Read more »

Frank King
Frank King
4 years ago
Reply to  RD guest

The lady already lived her life. Your 90 years of revenge fantasy is just pathetic. Go outside.

Daniel
Daniel
4 years ago
Reply to  Frank King

I understand Frank. If someone brutally kills either of your parents, they don’t deserve quite the punishment they would if they killed a college student because your parents have lived long lives and are now disposable. That makes a ton of sense. That, sir, is pathetic.

ALG
ALG
4 years ago
Reply to  Brandon Johns

Hey high speed…feel free to find a country you find more suitable. Off you go.

Dan
Dan
5 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

Your a pure retard if you think your statement is valid

Justicar
Justicar
5 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

You are a fucking moron. These monsters deserve to be executed in a public square.

Alex
Alex
5 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

I apologize for my english. Rejoice in your justice system, it is really objective in this case. In many countries, including Russia, these two monsters would not even go to prison as they are 13 years old. This gives rise to a feeling of impunity for adolescents and only increases the number of such crimes. Sometimes excessive humanism is inappropriate and only harms.

Harry
Harry
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Including Russia? I am sorry Sir, but you are wrong. The boys would have been sent to a camp for juvenile criminals and left there for years, most of the time without any possibility for their family to visit them since those camps are miles away from towns and even villages. The system doesn’t pretend to rehabilitate the boys, it is here to punish them. Если вы русский, то знаете это не хуже меня.

R.D
R.D
9 months ago
Reply to  Alex

That ridiculous. If you don’t put them in prison you need to have some place where they can have some chance of rehabilitation.

Lauryn
Lauryn
5 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

He also stabbed her to death to get her to stop screaming so that his mother wouldn’t hear.

RD guest
RD guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

NO Way does this garbage deserve any second chance! the one was even smirking in court, the tears were what their lawyers told them to put on display to sway the jury. Keep them in a cell until dead of old age

Frank King
Frank King
4 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

The kind of kid that is raised being beaten like a slave or an animal.

Kids doing heinous crimes to animals and other kids is as American as apple pie.

Daniel
Daniel
4 years ago
Reply to  Frank King

That’s right Frank, that’s what all us American kids did growing up. We all tortured animals, other kids, and our great grandparents. You, sir, are an idiot.

Bdsaf dfas
Bdsaf dfas
4 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

Too bad you dont research your facts before defending murderers. It was later revealed Joshua Phillips did not accidentally kill the little girl, she was found only waering socks and a shirt. No underwear, They found violent underage porn on Joshua Phillips computers along with books on witchcraft and satanism.

Tess
Tess
9 months ago
Reply to  Bdsaf dfas

Those are the facts! SMH trying to downplay such a heinous crime!

Ramiro
Ramiro
4 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

I hope u get cancer and die

Dragon Dink
Dragon Dink
3 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

They knew better and did it anyway. The rest of society agreed. Thank DOG adults run the show, and not effed up kids.

Last edited 3 years ago by Dragon Dink
Harry
Harry
2 years ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

then a murdering Nazi such as Eichmann according to your way of thinking (“everyone, no matter how cruel a crime…”) would deserve a second chance? No way! You stick to this wrong idea that teenagers are by nature poor innocent creatures, I can tell you they are not. I am a man with a handicap and I was attacked, punched, and thrown down by a group of six 15-year-old teenagers for trying to just stop their bullying of a young woman of the same age, as spectators watched. I didn’t insult them, I didn’t hurt them, I just asked them… Read more »

whatisthisworldcomingto
whatisthisworldcomingto
2 years ago
Reply to  Harry

I have felt like my life was in danger for asking a kid nicely to do the job for which they are getting paid. I fear for the future because there are so many kids who do not care about anyone or anything except themselves and have absolutely ZERO moral compass or humanity. Absolutely no value for others property or lives. Scary AF.

Ann
Ann
1 year ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

So are you saying that a kid can go ahead and commit any crime they wish, no matter the consequences? and they can get off scot free because of their age? .. Whoa, Imagine if they came under the influence of say someone like charles manson? An army of 12 year old killers, that can not be charged.

Sue
Sue
1 year ago
Reply to  Tonnie Moon

Joshua Phillips murder was no accident..he lied

Marilyn Santos
Marilyn Santos
6 years ago

Wow🤔cold hearted how can you killed ur own grandma 😢😢let them rot in jail,they didn’t feel remorse for her,why should we,they didn’t giv her a second chance, they dnt deserved on either,😢😢r

Kelly Noble
Kelly Noble
6 years ago

Neither boy should ever be released. Antonio killed his own great grandma. Whaaaat the hell? Even IF he has a issue after an accident and even IF his friend had a low IQ…Both know right from wrong. I hope that pizza and pot was good…cause it cost them a lot. Neither need released because they took a life. A life for a life. If you can take a life you can get life or give your life due to getting the death penalty! Sick of people thinking they can kill and get a slap on the wrist. Personally…I think if… Read more »

Brdj
Brdj
4 years ago
Reply to  Kelly Noble

Well sorry, but this is America, not North Korea.

Jay Ozark
Jay Ozark
1 year ago
Reply to  Brdj

In North Korea he would be used for artillery practice.

Angel Vega
Angel Vega
4 years ago
Reply to  Kelly Noble

You cannot think like that if your intention is justice. The punishment you speak of is called revenge and the Law cannot be righteous if it is vengeance. Otherwise, it has no right to tell people what to do. It must be at a higher standard. Free your mind

Ann
Ann
1 year ago
Reply to  Angel Vega

Fuck? Maybe the muslims are right..an eye for an eye etc.. because dickheads like you would have all these depraved lunatics running around killing innocent people with impunity, AND they could get away with it, due to their age. If you csn commit these heinous crimes at such a young age, and not be judged, then imagine what they could be like as an adult.

Angel
Angel
1 year ago
Reply to  Ann

You have no clue obviously of what righteous justice is. Or even how all this works. You base your judgements on your emotions. Which makes you terrible at it. Nothing says you can’t lock them away for life if it fits the crime . But for law to be something worth following it has to behave better than the evil and criminal minded. If the cops could go around executing people on site guess what? A lot of people are not gonna follow their law. I wouldn’t .

Last edited 1 year ago by Angel
Ditton
Ditton
1 year ago
Reply to  Angel

people wonder how american kids can be so violent , and then you have adults in the comments like this saying they hope these kids will get beaten to death in prison . The violent fantasies “normal” people have about seeking “justice” is indicative of the overall violent and revenge based attitudes that permeate the whole culture.

Jay Ozark
Jay Ozark
1 year ago
Reply to  Ann

Chop him up in the parking lot.

Dan
Dan
5 years ago

These kids are fucking absolute jokes what kind of crazy ass psychotic fuck goes and does that to a person especially if it’s your grandma wtf

mosh
mosh
5 years ago

hope they get beaten to death in prison 😀

RD guest
RD guest
4 years ago
Reply to  mosh

Me too!!! slow and hard that’s what they both deserve and these whiny right wing god apologists who yammer on about how they are JUST poor innocent children with undeveloped brains and deserve a second chance and yada yada yada- skrew you and the the donkey your jesus rode in on anyway!

Frank King
Frank King
4 years ago
Reply to  RD guest

I don’t think it’s “right wing god apologists” buddy. wtf are you on about?

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  RD guest

So angry about God? I feel like you could use a hug right after we chain them to a tractor trailer bumper, headed out of town. Is a God apologist really a thing. And why are they out on the wing. Specifically the right one? Why not the left? Is there nobody apologizing to God on the left wing? You think if they were flying they might just be thanking God instead of apologizing to him. So many questions. A lot of what have yous and what nots. There were incidents and accidents, hints and allegations. Not a lot of… Read more »

Tammy
Tammy
2 years ago
Reply to  RD guest

What a shame!!!! No right wing person that I know would say give them a 2nd chance, an eye for an eye….how stupid some people are in this world!! You need to leave Jesus out of your uneducated comments!!!

Karen
Karen
5 years ago

I’m speechless. It’s as if our youth are becoming psychotic and heartless. Their ability to value life is gone! This is scary!

Frank King
Frank King
4 years ago
Reply to  Karen

Crime is way down, lady. And everyone is psychotic and heartless.
What do you expect when you raise a kid by beating them. This is what you get.

Charles
Charles
2 years ago
Reply to  Frank King

I was raised by being beaten, and I’ve never killed or harmed anyone. Now what?

R.D
R.D
9 months ago
Reply to  Charles

Thank God. However I am sure there are things that have affected your emotions by being beaten.

R.D
R.D
9 months ago
Reply to  Frank King

True about abuse, but speak for yourself…everyone is not psychotic and heartless. What you just did with that statement is lessen the severity of mental illness in children due to whatever trauma. Psychosis is no joke!

Angel Vega
Angel Vega
4 years ago
Reply to  Karen

Its not that kids are worse these days its that news travels faster and farther.

themacmeister
themacmeister
5 years ago

Spell Murderers!!!! Can you spell it?

Mark
Mark
4 years ago

May they burn in hell. And the “parents” who created these monsters should burn in hell as well.

Cee jay
Cee jay
3 years ago

Honestly you have to look at thier home life…. A lot of times these childeren who kill, rape another is only doing what seems to them as possibly normal… There is no excuse to kill this grandma when you could have easily robbed her abd left her alone…and with the amount of aggression and how many times the lady was hit there has to be more to this case cause thats a lot of anger to hit someone with any object tbat many times

sorewreckedum
sorewreckedum
3 years ago

They look as if they are sporting 70’s news anchor wigs, god what a horrible hair style.

Dragon Dink
Dragon Dink
3 years ago
Reply to  sorewreckedum

First sign of “bro” culture, those stupid flinging haircuts. And being a fragile-ego’d white boy. So the first manly thing to do is beat your grandmother. M’kay.

Charles
Charles
2 years ago
Reply to  Dragon Dink

You’re exactly right about that!

Julie
Julie
2 years ago

Rot in hell Tito. You murdered my aunt.

Paula Hill
Paula Hill
1 year ago

Why did the mom just drop off 2 13 year old boys when she knew one was a run away? No parental supervision led to this. better parenting, a life dedicated to our Lord would have led to their lacking morality. Lord have mercy

don gaudreau
don gaudreau
1 year ago

Antonio Barbeau was a “good kid” not getting into trouble before being hit by a car and concussed. Severe head injuries especially to a developing brain can and do cause drastic cognitive, behavioral and personality changes. Simply calling him evil is too easy. He’s obviously a danger to society though unless his neurological issues could be treated. Tragic for everyone involved.

R.D
R.D
9 months ago
Reply to  don gaudreau

That was a defense strategy. I doubt if any accident caused this. There would have been some questionable signs.

Jay Ozark
Jay Ozark
1 year ago

A little sicko. Keep him in prison forever.

R.D
R.D
9 months ago

It is interesting how 12-16 years is the age of these violent young adults. As a counselor we find more 4-5 year olds with such childhood trauma and defiant behaviors in the classrooms. Manipulative to the hilt! Many could turn out to be sociopaths /psychopaths, but that can’t be diagnosed till age 15.

Ricky Ford
Ricky Ford
6 months ago

when you’re growing up you know from right and wrong and you know you don’t take a person’s life or hurt anybody

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