The Survival of Carmina Salcido

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22nd November 2019  •  5 min read

Carmina Salcido was just 3-years-old when her father, Ramon Salcido, killed her two sisters, her mother, and four others. Ramon had slit Carmina's throat but miraculously, she survived. "Daddy cut me," she wept when finally rescued.


The Survival of Carmina Salcido

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28-year-old Ramon Salcido worked at Grand Cru Winery in Sonoma County, California. His wife, Angela, worked as a seamstress and the couple had three daughters: 4-year-old Sofia, 3-year-old Carmina, and 22-month-old Teresa.

In April of 1989, things for Ramon started to deteriorate. He was close to being fired as he was deemed unreliable and life at home wasn’t much better. Ramon bullied and controlled Angela and she was just about gaining the strength and independence to leave him.

The Survival of Carmina Salcido
Sofia, Carmina, and Teresa, 22 months. Credit: Press Democrat.

Moreover, Angela had just recently found out that Ramon had a second wife with whom he had a baby with. While Ramon and his first wife had separated, they never actually got a divorce and now, she had tracked him down and obtained a court order forcing him to pay her $511 a month in addition to $5,807 to the Social Service Department of Fresno County to repay sums turned over by that agency to her.1

Ramon was also angry by the fact that Angela had recently been approached by two modelling agencies who felt as though she could have a lucrative career in television commercials. Ramon was furious of the thought of his wife straying from home and having her own successful career. He became so jealous that Angela was forbidden from even going grocery shopping alone and he came home from work several times throughout the day to check on her.2

Unable to come to terms with the seeds that he’d sown, Ramon did the unthinkable.

The Survival of Carmina Salcido
Ramon and Angela.

On the 14th of April, 1989, after spending the night snorting cocaine and drinking, Ramon drove his three daughters to a dump on Stage Gulch Road. Once here, he placed his daughters over his knee and slit their throats one by one. He then tossed them into the brush. Afterwards, he drove to his in-laws home in Cotati where he sat outside and waited for his father-in-law, Bob Richards, to leave home for work as a United Parcel Service driver. Ramon then knocked on the front door and told his mother-in-law, Marian Richards, that he needed to borrow a tool.

When Marian turned back into the house to retrieve the tool, Ramon knocked her to the ground with a blow to the head. He forced his way inside and closed the door behind him before stabbing Marian to death and then turning on her daughters. Both 12-year-old Ruth and 8-year-old Maria were stabbed to death.

Before leaving, Ramon placed a call to his wife, Angela. When Angela confirmed that she was at home, Ramon stole a pistol from the Richards’ household and climbed back into his car. From here, Ramon drove to the family’s home at Boyes Hot Springs and shot Angela four times, killing her. There was evidence in the home that Angela had fought desperately for her life and a struggle ensued throughout several rooms.

Afterwards, Ramon drove to Grand Cru Winery and lay in wait for Tracy Toovey, a married father of two children, including a newborn baby boy. When Tracy appeared, Ramon flashed his lights, signalling for Tracy to stop. When Stacy stopped, Ramon approached the car and shot Tracy in the head, killing him instantly.

The Survival of Carmina Salcido
Tracy Toovey. Credit: Press Democrat.

Ramon then drove to the Kenwood home of Ken Butti, who was the supervisor at Grand Cru. He aimed his pistol and fired. Thankfully, he missed any of Ken’s vital organs and shot him once in the shoulder. Ramon then aimed at Ken’s wife, Terri, and pulled the trigger. However, the gun jammed and Ramon left. When police arrived at the scene, Ken identified Ramon as the shooter and said he had no idea why he had tried to kill him and his wife. At one point, Ramon had been a valued employee and he had no issues with him.

With a name, police set out trying to track Ramon down. Soon enough, the majority of the bodies were soon discovered. However, Ramon’s three daughters were still missing.

The entire town clung on to hope that they were okay and Ramon had simply run away with them. The following day, however, they would soon come to discover that this wasn’t true.  A young man was walking along the edge of a quarry bordering the dump and came across a gruesome scene: three young girls, lying motionless and surrounded in blood. He rushed to the quarry supervisor’s office and called police.

When police arrived at the scene, both Sofia and Teresa were dead but miraculously, Carmina was still clinging to life despite the fact that her throat had been slit from ear to ear. She was rushed to the hospital where she told staff: “Daddy cut me…” Dr. Dennis McCleod said that Carmina had managed to survive because she had been sitting up for almost 30 hours and that had prevented her from choking to death on her own blood. Her larynx had almost been severed and the base of her tongue was torn in the slashing. One of her fingers had been sliced almost to the tendon, presumably from Carmina attempting to protect herself from her father. An autopsy concluded that the girls had all been molested before having their throats slit.

Following the murders, Ramon fled to Mexico via Calexio. He made his way to his hometown where his relatives turned him in to police. As officers flew out to bring him back, officials at the Sonoma County Jail were worried that he would be killed due to his brutal crime. The inmates were so touched by the crime in fact, that they mustered $800 to donate towards a trust fund for Carmina. “There were inmates who had maybe $1, $2, $5 for buying cigarettes or toiletries, and they pledged every bit of it,” said Reverend Robert Gutleben, a former jail chaplain.3

After his arrest, he thanked the man who discovered his daughters and displayed concern over the custody of Carmina. Young Carmina underwent a tracheostomy and a tube had to be inserted into her windpipe to ease her breathing until the wound healed. She was adopted by a couple who were friends with her grandfather, Robert Richards. As an adult, she wrote a book about her survival titled: “Not Lost Forever.”4

Ramon Salcido was found guilty of six counts of first-degree murder, one count of second-degree murder and two counts of attempted murder. He was sentenced to death and is currently on Death Row in San Quentin State Prison.

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Footnotes:

  1. The Toronto Sun, 21 March, 1993 – “A Night of Horror”
  2. Houston Chronicle, 17 April, 1989 – “Toys Shower Rampage Survivor”
  3. The Press Democrat, 14 April, 1999 – “Day of Carnage Remembered”
  4. San Francisco Chronicle, 19 September, 1990 – “Surgeon Tells Jury How Salcido Girl Survived With Throat Slit”

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Kathrina Walsh
Kathrina Walsh
4 years ago

Oh god what a brave and smart girl. What a sick sick man. Why did he need to kill the children as well?

Sheri
Sheri
4 years ago
Reply to  Kathrina Walsh

This pig also raped them before cutting their throat. I hope his life is hell in prison

Elena
Elena
3 years ago
Reply to  Sheri

Oh, God! How could that monster tdone that? How that little girl had survived with all that pain from the rape and the cut? OMG

Ken
Ken
1 year ago
Reply to  Sheri

No it won’t be he’s on death row. As luxurious and private as it gets in prison. The death penalty needs to end, not because it’s inhumane, but because it’s too nice. Most die a natural death before it finally comes to the execution. This way they just have it nice and protected until it happens, so private room for 20 years or so.

Nikulr1984
Nikulr1984
1 year ago
Reply to  Ken

Absolutely correct. That’s how it went for Charles Manson too, three square meals a day and a nice private suite until he dies from a natural old age in his eighties. Strange way to punish someone

Jonathan Blake
Jonathan Blake
2 years ago
Reply to  Kathrina Walsh

brave maybe. Smart? Sure, if smart is being an active criminal organizer with her felonious tech geek and Hacker lover/friend Henry.. She is with a man Henry that runs a criminal organization inside a homeless tiny home village ran by Sonoma County. She is and is with the worst of the worst. Straight criminal activities including hacking, id theft, child pornography, scare tactics. She is not is not the sole you think. Beware. Be very aware!

Kelly
Kelly
2 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Blake

Talking about Carmina? Pretty damn sure many many people who lived through that would end up living the”wrong” way as they got older and try to get away from the memories. As a child she had to go to this and learn about everybody that he had killed and how her own dad had done this to her. Seems to me that getting older I’m sure that the thoughts and memories or stronger and I am so tired of dealing with them that you’re be at the end of your rope, dealing with them all her life. I can see… Read more »

Angela Watkins
Angela Watkins
3 years ago

Carmina is missing
This is july 2020 and she hasnt been heard from since feb 2020. She missed her daughters bd for first time in 10 years. Please help find her, have her call her child.

Sunny may
Sunny may
3 years ago
Reply to  Angela Watkins

Is she still missing ?

Jonathan Blake
Jonathan Blake
2 years ago
Reply to  Angela Watkins

She is currently LIVING at los guilicos village in Santa Rosa California. North Pythian Rd. homeless shelter raping and pillaging desperate folks already in need.. stealing identification, bank info, anything her and her criminal boy friend Henry and their crew can get their hands on and the county will not do anything about it. We are in serious need of policing here because of her and her man directly. They have a crew of about 13 here out of around 80 and they will steal everything that is not bolted down. Just watched her pass by my shack 5 minutes… Read more »

Kelly
Kelly
2 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Blake

Wow. Somebody must have really done something bad you in your life and you definitely have hung onto cuz you going to be very angry about what she’s doing with her life. Why don’t you just let it go or take it out on the person that did whatever it was to you. I just started reading this so who knows, maybe you’re a part of her life that matters but I have a feeling you’re not so stay out of hers. you have no reason to be talking about her unless you know her personally and have for a… Read more »

Michelle
Michelle
1 year ago
Reply to  Kelly

I am trying to reach Carmina where is she?? Please let me know My girls and I are concerned about her. We have spent time with her. It is not like her not to stay in touch!

Angela Watkins
Angela Watkins
3 years ago

Carmina Cecilia salcido is missing
Dob 4/25/86, blonde hair blue eyes, 5’4″, last seen in sonoma county, jan, 2020. She has never missed her daughters birthday,

ZGal
ZGal
3 years ago
Reply to  Angela Watkins

Is she still missing? I couldn’t find anything about her disappearance 🙁

Elle
Elle
3 years ago

I hate how this article just drops in names and murders with no real info. Why was he waiting on Tracey Toovey? Were Ruth and Maria his wife’s sisters?

Eva
Eva
2 years ago
Reply to  Elle

Tracy was the owner of the winery

Romane
Romane
2 years ago

Usually have no issue with added text or fluffing up a piece, and i do trust you, Emily, but I’m curious as to how a child with a cut throat, who was probably in too much shock and pain to even move, managed to speak at all let alone say “Daddy cut me”

She had a cut larynx and tongue and was dehydrated. I doubt she said anything.

Liz Kelly Ayala
Liz Kelly Ayala
2 years ago

She is not missing. However, according to her arrest record for California in Sonoma County, she was arrested in 2019 for drug possession and last year (2020) for outstanding warrants. This poor woman has had to deal with hell and a tremendous amount of suffering in her life.

Kelly
Kelly
2 years ago

Thank you, I see it the same way as you do. Jonathan Blakes comments are so frustrating. He needs to just with his own problems and stop worrying about hers

Michelle
Michelle
1 year ago

It is really sad PTSD is not easy to deal with, Gloria Allred stole her royalty money from her book. Then to loose her dog and daughter, the system has failed her! Hollywood stole from her. She needs compassion and love, therapy, not judgment! I tried to help her but I am also a survivor of abuse. It seems we all struggle. I did the best I could for her but it was not enough unfortunately.

Kelly
Kelly
2 years ago

I know it’s not the best thing to say it’s a fact that you know years ago I also did a lot of cocaine a lot of drugs and you know what? Never once did I want to kill anybody more than I wanted to now I’m sober! Never made me want to do that, I was still in control of my own thoughts and yes a lot was done – i find those reasons as bullsh*t

Pamela
Pamela
1 year ago

Hatred and jealousy in its vilest form. Also cockiness and alcohol and cocaine binge.

Paige Hedberg
Paige Hedberg
1 year ago

Omg! Those poor, sweet girls. Rest in the sweetest of peace to all those slain by this sick demented monster. Best wishes to Carmina. You are a fighter, and I hope you are able to live your best life after your own father showed you how rotten the world can be. Those inmates are proof that even if human makes mistakes, getting caught up in our justice system and going to prison doesn’t mean you’re a monster. They deserve a second chance, and the same universal level of basic human respect we all deserve. The only people who don’t deserve… Read more »

Kathleen Kramer
Kathleen Kramer
7 months ago

Was one of the daughters NOT Ramon’s biological child?

jean fox
jean fox
27 days ago

It’s hard to understand or even cope with what that man did, I mean, that was his family. He most certainly went off the deep end, taking those with him who least deserved his actions.

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